Granular discussion among three expert analysts with Gonzalo Lira moderating while chain-smoking. (He's still in Kharkov. The building next to where he's staying was bombed some days ago.) After about the first 20 minutes the discussion expands to other regions in Ukraine but keeps returning to Bakhmut.
Dima (Military Summary Channel) thinks Marinka is more important than Bakhmut for the Russians; he explains his reasoning starting at the 50:30 mark; debate and discussion follows. Basically he's saying that the Ukrainians need to be ejected from Donetsk as the top priority.
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